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    "Lightning 5"
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    Default Extrication Tool Comparison

    I'm just looking for some information on extrication tools because I believe my dept. is going to be looking into some for our new Rescue truck. Ive done a few comparisons with the numbers online from different companies, but im also looking for personal opinions. What does your company use, whats the price range, how does your dept like them and most importantly how is the service if the tool were to break.

    The companies I'm comparing are:
    TNT
    Hurst
    Amkus
    Holmatro

    Also if they are any other companies you guys are using and like, feel free to share.

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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by BullsHead View Post

    The companies I'm comparing are:
    TNT
    Hurst
    Amkus
    Holmatro

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    I've used/ "played" with the above 4 mentioned manufacturers. All have pro's & cons.....

    We use Hurst, have since the beginning. Typically, the "H" in Hurst means "heavy", but, what the tool lacks in "light-weightness" is compensated by the power it has.

    Elmont uses Holmatro, I beleive Mineola uses Amkus.

    As stated, each manufacturer has pros & cons.

    Service-wise, same thing- depending on the dealer that services the equipment when there's a problem will differ. Many dealers who service said tools offer "loaner" tools when something is OOS.

    You basically have to handle the tool yourself before ya buy.

    Best bet is to contact the nearest dept with whichever brand you're looking to try out, and ask them, and try it out for yourself.... and even though the "buff shows" typically suck, all brands are usually represented so you can handle the tool(s) yourself too.
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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    this wont be hard for roslyn...you guys use Amkus... Glenwood uses Hurst...Sea Cliff uses Holmatro and Bayville uses TNT.

    between in my opinion the 2 top contenders... Holmatro and Hurst.... Hurst is heavier and less power in the standard Low-Pressure Set up that hurst uses...and that just about Everyone has. (the typical black and yellow hurst set up)

    Hurst has the new High pressure system, which seems stronger then the holmatro too. but has also adapted the Twist handle style of Holmatro and TNT.

    i think Genesis has the best trigger system. its a push thru style trigger...similar to that of a lamp..
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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    If you can get the cars most if not all of the dealers would come in and give you a hands on demonstration of their products. All you have to do is call them.

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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    We had Amkus for many years and have been moving towards TNT. Our spreaders are still Amkus - they do just fine. Our Amkus cutters couldnt keep up and we moved to TNT for that. We have also replaced our generators with TNT units.

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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    I've handled the old and new Holmatro tools and Amuks.
    I'd have to say to demo the Holmatro gear. Hendrickson will come out and let you demo the new Holmatro core gear which I honestly can't say many negative things about. The core technology is outstanding with the tangle free hose, hot-swappable tools (meaning you don't have to shut off the generator to swap tools, and the fact that the send/receive is combined into one hose makes hooking it up a breeze, not having to worry about which end goes where and it just makes everything more compatible with each other.

    The Holmatro core tools are extremely light and easy to handle too, which is a big plus.
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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    My new department uses hurst and TNT. We went to TNT primarily for its cutters and there ability to cut through the reinforced posts on many new vehicles. The spreaders are very quick which takes some getting used to but I recommend the larger spreader that TNT sells. Every company has its good points and bad. Our preconected lines are hurst and our portable is TNT. Definately do all your research and get demos before you purchase.
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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    call hurst and they will set up a demo day for you, the best way is to just use the tools.
    tools have changed over the years, so what you might think is one way has probably changed.
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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    As previously said, each manufacturer has it highs and lows, I have been using Hurst for over 20 years, of course we have upgraded as they have come out with new technology, we have always been well served with the Hurst Product and the service we get from Firematic is excellent, they supply loaners if needed and typically have a quick turn around time.

    I havent really looked in depth at the other tools, havent found a reason to need to.

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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    Thanks everyone for their input. We probably will demo a whole bunch before we purchase them.

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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    My dept has been doing the same, looking to see what out there because the stuff we have is heavy and slow. We are primarily Hurst. We picked up new cutters not too long ago, they work but are real heavy. We have a 27" spreader, however, its stout which makes the are short and hard to get into tight spots. The 32" old style long arm spreaders have a better shot at a tight spot, but are heavy as hell. In the old days, car doors were all steel and large, you needed the 32's to rip a door off. Doors today are not as big and use less metal, so, do you really need the large 32's?? We put the small combi we had on our rescue as the primary spreader, its lighter and smaller, yet still slower. Our engine has a Holmatro set up, Combi and New Car Cutter. They are light. They are fast, only in the "off load", meaning, when you need to open or close em to get into position, they are fast, under load they go slow, which, unlike TNT and Genisis, you still obtain better control. We demoed the TNT, wasn't a very positive outcome. Heard a few problems with the "Speed" valve they have. Most of the manufacturers are using some type of device to eliminate the dump valve. Holmatro has the single Core, while Hurst and TNT use a coupling. As far as Hurst's new high pressure stuff, still heavy and not too many people on the island switched to them, so i didn;t even bother looking.

    Learn the difference between High and Low Pressure systems too. It has a little to do with speed, but there is more to it. Ask the reps when you demo.
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    Default Re: Extrication Tool Comparison

    We have TNT on three trucks. Are heavy rescue as a set off the back of the truck. We have a cutter and spreader. The BFC 320 and S-100 41.
    We also have S-100 32 and C-25 cutter. That can be used with another power unit on the truck.
    The BFC 320 is a very strong cutter. Have friend in Kings Park FD that had a problem cutting boron Steal A post. They sent us a piece. The BFC 320 cut them in just under 13 seconds. One cut. Here is the link to You tube of the piece being cut.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB4UG9z5pqI]YouTube - Picture 008.mov[/ame]

    This is what it looks like after it was cut. You can see the folded steal with the boron rod in the middle. I donít know what car this came off of. Was told a late model Subaru.
    We broke are BFC320 Thursday night before Labor day. We called and got a brand new one out of the box on Saturday Morning of that weekend. TNT stands by there stuff and back them up 100% If you want more info on what we have PM.
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