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    Just doing my job :?) FDNY52504
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    Had ops tonight, one of the instructors told us that funding was cut to the FSA and there would be no more classes this year other than Dept Ops, and Essentials/Primary...

    Anyone else hear this?

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    What happened to the money that they probably got from verizon? Bet that went right into the general fund!

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    Ok, here is the answer - Classes that departments have ALREADY scheduled classes are still a go. If you call for a class next week - no good.

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    There is supposed to be a meeting next week to discuss funding with the nitwits in charge of the county.
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    Default Re: NCFSA Classes

    71 departments/districts have training budgets. Worst case, the County should allow the districts to pay for the individual classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uselesskomish View Post
    71 departments/districts have training budgets. Worst case, the County should allow the districts to pay for the individual classes.
    That might be doable for the bigger districts out there but the smaller companys and village departments will never be able to afford to do this.

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    The value of many classes is the instructor and the slides. I would think that for an 8 hour class, paying hourly rate, plus expenses and markup would be affordable OUTSIDE of the FSA. I'm not really talking about using the FSA grounds - that would cost a lot more.

    Many battalions have their own little training facilities. Hands on could be done there.

    For something like primaries, a few FDs could pool their money to do it on grounds.

    The advantage of an un-consolidated fire service is that we have options when the county runs out of them.

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    I'm sure someone from the FSA will elaborate a little more, but here goes...

    We have one of THE BEST Fire Academies in the nation. Its good enough that "outside" agencies train there as well....

    We, as Nassau VOLUNTEER Firefighters and Taxpayers, fund said facility & programs.

    The fact that ANY funding is being diverted away from NCFSA is essentially playing "russian roulette"...

    ...Individual depts have training centers, which is valuable tool. But let me know another place that has a LIRR train, a chopper, a boat, a propane simulator, etc....

    ...when was the last time "residents" let ya drill in their 1 stry taxpayer or 6 stry omd?


    Another little "tidbit", OSHA,NFPA, NIOSH & NYS Dept of Labor REQUIRE that probationary firefighters receive their curriculum from a CERTIFIED Fire Instructor. What paperwork are ya ready to produce when the shyte hits the fan?
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    Everyone needs to make some noise regarding this issue if you want to continue receiving live burn training as well as elective courses at the NCFSA. Unfortunately we are our own worst enemy on this. A few years back the fire commission was asked to pay for pump tests to offset some costs and everybody pitched a bitch and flat out refused!!
    The Nassau fire service is a huge voting block and put Mangano in office. Maybe its time to refresh his memory a bit.

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    it is a shame now how and where would we go for training, the nit wits in the county dont know how to balance a budget, maybe each town, hempstead, north hempstead, oyster bay, glen cove, long beach should budget in there budgets for the training. newsday gonna have a field day with this.
    We need a fire service so we have to rally together as a brother and sisterhood and fight.

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