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11-24-2007, 10:06 PM #1
Propane Heating Tanks at P/D's
After my vacation to "rural" america, some interesting questions were posed/somewhat answered..... and I "care to share"....
First off, how many depts around have areas where natural gas is not available and propane is used to heat the house/run the stove?
On a branch off that subject, are there any specific SOP's reguarding the large LPG tanks typically located next to the house? (i.e. in addition to attack line to fire, 2nd line to tank? shutoff? etc)
Pretty much every house down where I was uses Propane to run it all. Very few oil burners, and little to no natural gas service, except to commercial locations.
Seemed "odd" to me being an "Island" boy, but found a house around the corner from me here in FS that uses Propane for house heat & stove. Large tank on the side of house very visable from street. And I know Broad Channel in Queens has no gas service either, so another area where Propane is used heavily.
Even "odder" to me was that the tanks where I was staying were all buried underground, and the "fill" was located typically by the curb (well, there were no curbs!), several hundred feet away from the underground tank. (PS no hydrants either)
Just looking to get a feel what other shops do.My posts are mine and do not represent my dept
11-24-2007, 11:44 PM #2
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- Jan 2007
Don't assume your district doesn't have propane. Propane is used in many applications such as forktrucks, RV's,, landscapers, boats, asphalt companies,pool heaters, propane fill stations etc. Propane is a bit more dangerous than methane(natural gas) b/c it doesn't dissipate and will pool along a surface. When a leak is present, use a fog stream to help dissipate it. The propane tank you referred to is pretty easy to disconnect(like a BBQ 20lb tank) and can be removed from the fire building, disconnect it and roll it off like a gentleman. I had a PRV on one of these let go due to fire exposure The off gas eventually ignited and the sound was almost unbearable. We placed a 2.5 line on it from a distance to cool the tank down. As long as you keep the tank cool you'll prevent the BLEVE(hopefully). I'll try to think of some more tips later, my brain is shot right now.
11-25-2007, 02:18 AM #3
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- May 2006
- Nort Chore
a propane tank location at a p/d is def something that should be in the report by the OVM. so command can act on it, to have a line keep it cool if its in a hazardous place, or just to make sure the heat and flame dont get to it...
iv never seen them in the ground, but it might be so...
also there are places where there is a large house, with 3 or 4 cottages around it...they all might run off 1 propane tank...the main tank might have 4 shutoffs on top...turn them all off...
if able to, it might be easiest to set up an engine within deck gun range, so an mpo can keep the tank cool by himself...You gotta be 100 percent, 100 percent of the time.
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