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08-13-2007, 11:14 PM #1
The "Hands-on" approach
Now this goes for ALL of us out there. Dont care if you're an officer, or a firefighter with 4 years on, or someone on the back step with 20 years... HANDS-ON works best....your best training scenario is REAL LIFE.
I.e. probie gets trained on the Rabbit Tool, instructed on its operation, etc. He/she will learn more if they see how its used-not saying to take a door, but next run when nothing is going on, bring it out, prop open a metal frame door (PS-that's already unlocked) and let em use it. No damage to door, and instead of 5 mins bs'ing about the Yankees, the kid with 6 months just learned how that tool works. And ya know what, more than likely, will remember that 5 min drill ya just did instead of the 22 mins of discussion about the tool.
Goes for virtually anything on any truck anywhere. I got a drill on standpipe hose/standpipes at 345am during an automatic alarm when I was a probie. Wont forget how to do it (or for that matter when I did it).
Again, once the scene is secured, incident has died down, take a few minutes for the "newbies" ya may have.....people in our biz tend to be apprehensive about asking questions so they dont often....but you learn more in the field than ya do back at the barn.My posts are mine and do not represent my dept
08-14-2007, 01:27 AM #2
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like when i was tough how to hit the hydrant, no time in went mutual aid to anther dept and the guy driving the pumper asked me if i knew how i said no, so he took me to the nearest hydrant and to tough me how to do it right
08-15-2007, 01:21 AM #3
You went on a mutual aid to another department and didn't know how to hit a hydrant? Not for nothing, what use were you to them anyway? Any call our engine goes to we try to test the hydrant and go over with the newer guy on how it works.(Some officers aren't big fans of us getting off the rig to test) MFD, you do bring up a good point, not enough hands on training is done.
08-15-2007, 01:27 AM #4
08-16-2007, 12:40 PM #5
BC John Salka had a great quote in his book, something to the effect of senior men vs. young guys who are 'into the job.' That it's impossible to get some senior men off the couch, when 1 or 2 of the junior guys seem to stand out among the rest and be rather proficient in their skills and tactics. Senior men aren't always the answer. The fire service has a lot of senior men who know a good car wash and ice machine when they see one. Don't rule out the 2 year wonder who's taking classes every night of the week and on every call. Their experience will come with time, but at least they're into it and doing something. It's better to have a guy that you need to pull back on the reins once in a while, then a slug who constantly needs a fire lit under his ass.
Make no mistake about it, if you have a member in your department who works in Rescue 2 or Ladder 44, etc. and you don't take them on a FAST Truck response because they're not too active ... well then your a fool and your doing a diservice to the department you've been summoned to assist. But they're only truely effective in your department if they are 100% familiar and 100% on-board with your chain of command and SOP's. 100% effectiveness has more than just on-scene results, it's long term as well and can effect moral, performance, response, etc.
08-16-2007, 06:13 PM #6
I like to try different things at my firehouse whenever possible, weather it's applying my facepiece quicker, cleaning my personal tools, trying to find new uses for old tools, or just diamond lashing another member in the stokes basket, the list goes on there is dozens of things alone you can do just while waiting to meet someone at the firehouse. The next time you have 30min to spare at the firehouse read the ERG book it should say ERG for dummies on the cover. The book explains all needed to obtain the basic info you would need to function properly as the first due apparatus at a hazmat incident. The only bad training is not training at all.It is not titles that honor men, but men that honor titles. (Machiavelli)
08-16-2007, 06:38 PM #7
You have no idea how dead-on-balls accurate you are!
And while people are at it....keep in mind that people only remember a fraction of what they learn in a classroom....but they will remember most of what they 'do' for hands-on. Oddly enough....most of our classes that are taught overseas will consist of about 15 minutes of class time in an 8-9 hour day. Generally...it's just long enough for them to take 'rollcall'. Right after that....we're on the drill ground. Phenomenal results...in terms of their ability to apply what they have learned....because they're 'doing it."If the job was easy.....then anyone could do it!
08-16-2007, 10:46 PM #8
nothing beats hands on you can talk to you are blue in the face unless you do hands on, it means nothing
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